w. bush, and former governor tommy thompson now running for the cites senate in his home state and full disclosure, i have endorsed his campaign for a lot of reasons i just shared with you. >> thank you very much, governor. >> mike: i want to begin right at the heart of this issue, you helped create the welfare reform movement by in an area in wisconsin, trying out the things that ended up working. other gorps said we'd like to do that, too. now we're seeing an attempt by the obama administration to make changes. i want you to first speak, what's the heart of what makes welfare reform work? >> the fact that people have to get up in the morning, go to work, and be able to get themselves out of poverty. i always told people you can't get out of poverty by not working and the welfares mothers responded in the state of wisconsin and across the country. always the responsibility for them, they had to have some skin in the game. and we would continue to provide for help for them and assistance